tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post122542364628036964..comments2024-02-24T03:23:15.797-05:00Comments on Who Created the Comic Books?: Jack Kirby Hidden in Plain SightMartin OHearnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14756078371130519063noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-34470266835556023292011-11-16T00:18:03.617-05:002011-11-16T00:18:03.617-05:00Martin, I'm sure you are right. I have no fram...Martin, I'm sure you are right. I have no frame of reference for Costanza, but I can't see Adams on that story based on the several Fourth World covers he inked over Kirby. When it comes to heavy handed inkers, Adams makes Murphy Anderson look like Mike Royer. <br /><br />Patrick Fordmr edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14502298398657797233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-13359061694587056982011-11-13T13:19:16.089-05:002011-11-13T13:19:16.089-05:00Patrick, I do see John Costanza in the inking; tha...Patrick, I do see John Costanza in the inking; that much of the original Amazing World credit I go along with.Martin OHearnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14756078371130519063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-61218704983169226682011-11-12T15:37:48.748-05:002011-11-12T15:37:48.748-05:00Martin, Despite having every issue of TJKC I'd...Martin, Despite having every issue of TJKC I'd completely forgotten the article in issue #16 until Chrissie mentioned it. <br />I have the same sense about Kirby's writing as you do. Both his writing and art have always been "square fingered" if you get what I mean. That's intended as an appreciation of Kirby's dialogue and art, personal style is something that gives me a lot pf pleasure, and Kirby's got a boat load of it. <br />Aside from just the way the material reads (it's voice), there is also the fact there is a lot of unpublished Simon and Kirby material still in pencil, and almost all of it shows Kirby's printing in the captions and balloons. <br /><br />I sure can't see Adams on that two page story. Maybe Bob Oskner. <br /><br />Patrick Fordmr edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14502298398657797233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-30479914628269875862011-11-12T14:08:57.113-05:002011-11-12T14:08:57.113-05:00Nigel: Adams on this?
Patrick: It's good to s...Nigel: Adams on this?<br /><br />Patrick: It's good to see that this Kirby work has already been presented correctly credited; it went under the radar on my Internet search before posting.<br /><br />I haven't written an article on Kirby's 40s-50s writing, but Rich Morrissey, say, may have passed my opinion out into fan circles that Kirby did almost all of the final scripting. Even where Ed Herron or Otto Binder are known to have submitted scripts for particular Captain America stories, I see Kirby supplying his own dialogue and captions. I'll try to post some examples eventually!Martin OHearnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14756078371130519063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-12520447740470840752011-11-10T17:39:42.355-05:002011-11-10T17:39:42.355-05:00Martin, JKQ editor Chrissie Harper tells me the st...Martin, JKQ editor Chrissie Harper tells me the story was published and credited to Jack in TJKC #16, and is also credited to Kirby in the Twomorrows Jack Kirby Checklist.<br />BTW, Do I recall it being mentioned somewhere you have written an article which makes the case Kirby wrote many of the S&K stories during the 40's and 50's? It certainly has long been obvious to me Kirby did the lions share of the writing, and that around 1951 Simon is absent from anything completely penciled by Kirby. <br />Why hasn't the article seen print? <br /><br />Patrick Fordmr edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14502298398657797233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-80378204872690369772011-11-10T16:25:42.271-05:002011-11-10T16:25:42.271-05:00I also reckon this was inked by Neal Adams. Just l...I also reckon this was inked by Neal Adams. Just look at those hands in the last panel. Don't suppose anyone will agree with me thoughNigel Kitchinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03753096114599943095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-81037425904906137842011-10-09T14:22:07.111-04:002011-10-09T14:22:07.111-04:00Martin,
As a GCD indexer I was able to update the...Martin,<br /><br />As a GCD indexer I was able to update the Kirby info, crediting you and Mark Evanier. I was also able to update the Starlin info as well.Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-48288850380537893682011-10-07T13:09:14.235-04:002011-10-07T13:09:14.235-04:00It is so obvious that Kirby both wrote and drew th...It is so obvious that Kirby both wrote and drew the piece that it is astounding that an error like that remains. If it hasn't happened yet I'll try to make the correction on the GCD and credit you and Mark Evanier.Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-6816494279601905462011-08-15T04:44:23.596-04:002011-08-15T04:44:23.596-04:00It did not take a lot of great detective ability f...It did not take a lot of great detective ability for me to know that Jack drew that story. I saw him draw it.Mark Evanierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08294096494779171404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-47330382763507787572011-08-13T11:49:52.135-04:002011-08-13T11:49:52.135-04:00SangorShop, thanks for remembering that Mark poste...SangorShop, thanks for remembering that Mark posted on this before there was an Internet to post on. Mark, I missed your pointing this out back then; but I'm not surprised to hear that you did!Martin OHearnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14756078371130519063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-6124298409367628722011-08-12T19:27:27.686-04:002011-08-12T19:27:27.686-04:00Martin is correct.Martin is correct.Mark Evanierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08294096494779171404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1969619411845920903.post-52900238873160503422011-08-12T19:15:54.480-04:002011-08-12T19:15:54.480-04:00Nice to see you blogging!
I think Mark Evanier...Nice to see you blogging! <br />I think Mark Evanier pointed this out back in 1976 - just that no one listened to him. Let me send a link to him....SangorShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650888644317638942noreply@blogger.com